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(Now that I'm thinking of it though, I heard that Frost DK had one of the best DPS in game so maybe they didn't buffed them for that reason). What do you think.


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But BoD is a different story, there is much more movement and the timing during the fights is terrible. Tried Frost last night for our farm bosses in BoD, it was horrible. The thing that bothers me is that frost in Legion was the most complex and skill-based in ABT, and we went from that to where we are now. Zalgo-emerald-dream Zalgo 28 February 2. The Dev team is likely well aware of the short-comings of the spec mechanical issues, numerical issues, etc. Redseal-kiljaeden Redseal 2 March Khileeha-sargeras Khileeha 2 March Death grip is a luxury, and it is all a death knight brings now. Shazzio-illidan 28 February 1. Sadly, the Rogue and FDK are same ilvl,. We do essentially zero ST outside of breath window. Playing frost makes me feel helpless and hopeless. Damage archetype 2 - Burst AoE. I enjoyed being a sustained DPS very much-- it felt like prolonged, perfect execution of my rotation was directly rewarded. Frost brings 2 damage archetypes and 1 utility spell to a raid. And I hope that they have it figured it in 8. Furthermore, the Rune drought makes the spec feel bad as well. Daveed-greymane 28 February 7. Uldir required high priority damage for a few fights where prog was difficult. Doomgard-illidan Doomgard 1 March 8. This was frustrating, but it was workable. At least PvP wise. The balance team decided to nerf Breath damage late-tier and buff non-Breath spells, which heavily nerfed FDK priority damage. The one saving grace frost had in Uldir was high priority damage, which objectively is no longer the case relative to other classes. In Legion, one of the best features of playing a DK was consistent damage pressure and real talent choices that would require consideration depending on the style of the raid encounter esp. We need help. Frost is suffering greatly. My theory is given further credence if one simply looks at the other bosses in Uldir itself-- Frost is middle-of-the-pack on every single encounter, and actually quite a bit below average on pure ST encounters, with the only noticeable positive outliers being the 2 fights I mentioned. I agree with you especially with regards to the choices Frost had in ABT. This current iteration is soโ€ฆ well, the opposite. Not a fan of being a tank, though with the current events thinking about learning to do just that. Which is why I am no longer subbed. If the team thinks priority is the way to go, great, but buff Breath and the traits that lean into that archetype. The balance team needs to take a hard look at FDK identity and decide whether sustained or priority damage fits the class better. It feels awful to have my dk feel like it has been broken into complete uselessness. Will try PTR for 9,0 before I even think of buying next expansion. Damage archetype 1 - Priority damage. The most frustrating part about the current situation is that the tuning pass taken late in Uldir totally shows how the balance team misunderstood what Frost brought to a raid and why Frost was statistically a good class in Uldir. Additionally, the loss of Reorigination Array more heavily impacted FDK than other classes, because Breath scales with mastery and therefore our entire burst phase does as well, in a more direct manner than I think the balance team realized.

Some context. Vangaard-tichondrius 8 March Corpsemcgee-illidan 21 March

Edited for Language by the Moderation Team. Buff damage across the board. This skewing can grow more pronounced if there are multiple fights where this is true. Please, fix our spec! Not claiming that I push for high rankings progression-wise, but I enjoy being competitive with my throughput and I like to think I have a good understanding of how to play the spec. I loved it, not only because I was doing well, but because sustained efficiency and good play was the cause. Breath of Sindragosa provides this. Thraxxar-zuljin 2 March Shazzio-illidan 6 March Battlezone-moon-guard 6 March If not BoS give frost some sort of burst because right now it has 0. Cirenavi-dalaran Cirenavi 28 February 3. These 3 fights were by far the most difficult last tier, and several decent guilds brought FDK to prog because you could throw Breath at high hp adds and it was remarkably effective. Obliterate scale off mastery. If memory serves, Frost was by far the best spec for this fight for one reason and one reason only. Another important point to realize is that all the BiS azerite pieces from BoD do essentially nothing to help our priority damage. My pally can do everything better and with engineering I have a battle res. Its really really odd when FF will fall off because no rimes in 30 seconds like really? UH on the other hand feels good, but just needs some tuning to get it right. Funeralmoon-silvermoon 28 February 6. There were times where I just sat for a couple seconds just auto-attacking waiting for Runes to come off cool down. Single target however, is lacking in both specs outside of burst such as Army of the Dead.